Late Starter to FI Series Progress Update 2022 Part 2

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I started the Late Starter to FI Series to highlight those of us who began our FI(RE) journeys later than the ‘traditional’ FIREes; specifically those who started in our 40s, 50s and 60s.

And if you know my back story, you already know that I started this blog because I didn’t find many late starters when I first discovered FIRE at 47. There were many in their 40s but they had either retired for many years or about to retire. No one was just starting out.

So I am eternally grateful to the 34 Late Starters who have so generously shared their stories. This proves that there are late starters out there. And the more we read each other’s stories, the less alone we feel; the more achievable our goals are when we see others like us accomplishing them.

We are a community and I want to also share our progress. Because being on the path to FI is not a get rich quick scheme 🙂 It really is like a journey – with setbacks, roadblocks and detours along the way. And we want to celebrate any wins along the way too, of course!

The first progress update was published last year (2021).

This year, we’ll divide the progress update into several parts.

Catch up on Part 1 which featured Late Starter to FI #6 – Fire For One, Late Starter to FI #21 – Vinnie and Late Starter to FI #27 – Pursuing Slow FI as a Late Starter

In Part 2, we’ll feature another 3 Late Starters – here are their original stories:

Late Starter to FI #9 – Deanna

Late Starter to FI #20 – Caroline & Scott

Late Starter to FI #32 – Jay

 

Do you have a Late Starter story to share? Please connect with me via email (info@latestarterfire.com), TwitterFacebook or Instagram.

 

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Inflation

My overall strategy is still the same – pump money into the market. However, I have thought about buying some bars of gold as a hedge against inflation but I have not done that yet. I think that will give me some peace so it’s on my radar to do.

Originally, I was a bit riskier in my asset allocation (90% stocks/10% bonds); however, I changed to 80% stocks/20% bonds back in 2019 after reading some stuff from Financial Samurai. I am glad I did!

However, we still need a hedge against inflation. We are not ready to buy a house. Owing real estate is a good hedge against inflation. The housing market is crazy here in the US so we are saving and perhaps in a few years when it calms down, we’ll buy.

Any other strategy changes?

I have had access to a Simple IRA at work and have been able to also contribute to a traditional IRA. In 2020, I switched to a Roth IRA as I feel the tax rates will be higher in the future in the US due to a lot of stimulus money that has been paid out.

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Major life updates

So I have a BIG change coming up and that is I am “retiring” from full time work, taking a little sabbatical to write a book, and then I will commence working part time in the fall.

Technically it’s not really retirement but rather, a transition from full time work to part time work. Yay! There is no draw down happening yet and my husband and I will continue to invest in his 401k and my Roth IRA.

All of this became possible because we got married. We can afford to do it and I can go on his health insurance. I have a decent chunk saved in my Simple IRA, Traditional IRA, Roth IRA and HSA so they will all continue to grow.

We have plans to start a ministry and felt God moving us in this direction. Plus my full time job was incredibly stressful so this move is good for my health 🙂

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Since I’ll be switching to part time, I’m not in as much of a hurry to fully retire. However, as my husband and I start a ministry and launch my book, we will see where that all takes us …

Inflation

We’re currently in ‘Coast FIRE’ where we’re consulting part time and not drawing down assets regularly, so inflation hasn’t changed our income strategy, just our expenses like everyone else.

Inflation has changed my risk appetite in the sense that I am incentivised to keep consulting and postponing draw down of our assets in order to give them extra time to grow.

Inflation has also changed my timetable for paying off any mortgage debt – at one point we were considering paying down extra principal on our rental properties, but even these interest rates (which are higher than for residential loans) are still lower than inflation.

Any other strategy changes?

We actually sold 3 of our rental properties in the last year.

Two properties were sold to become more liquid as we were 70/30 real estate/paper assets at the peak and we wanted to be closer to 50/50. But one property was sold opportunistically to our tenants, so now our assets are 40/60 real estate/paper.

We use tactical asset allocation for the bulk of our paper assets but also have approximately 20% total invested in private loans, a dividend stock fund, farmland and cryptocurrency.

Lifestyle changes

Travel was supposed to be a big part of how we’d spend our non-work time. But given the pandemic, we have been doing domestic travel almost exclusively and not as much travel as we expected.
 
We have put this time into our consulting and also wellness activities – working out, eating better.
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We have reached a basic stage of FI in that we could cover our bare minimum expenses without working. However, our plan has always been and still is to continue working at projects we love, to postpone drawing down our portfolio so we can cover our wants, not just our needs.

Our key ‘want’ was travel, which has slowed down. But we expect that will change in the next few years. In the meantime, we’re looking at this pandemic pause as a time to reflect and explore other interests.

Inflation

We really are not that concerned about inflation as our spending habits and yearly budget is not crazy. Plus we are very flexible with our needs. Hong Kong has been so expensive to live in and feed ourselves over the last eight years that no matter how much inflation has hit the food we buy in the US, we’ll be fine.

Our large expenses such as our car and our bikes were bought last year so we are fortunate to lock in 2021 prices.

We invested a chunk of our investments in a TIPS index fund and we will hold more cash than previously planned.

We feel our plan is pretty recession-proof and rock solid. That psychology, along with mathematics, are the most important things.

Any other strategy changes?

We are keeping way more liquid cash than we thought we would. Fortunately, we need to cash out our retirement accounts in Hong Kong before we leave and we can move that to the US tax free. This will help us buy a ton of bonds (and they are on sale) as well as have three or four years of cash.

Life updates

We will be retiring from our teaching jobs when the school year ends on June 2nd.

Canoe trips, bike touring, backpacking, trail running and skiing will all be part of playtirement.

Our first year, we will head out to Oregon to pick up our touring bicycles and do some outdoor pursuits. We get to reestablish our relationships with our beloved city of Duluth, Minnesota in the best months of August, September and October before we head out to the south western part of the US to do some adventures and allow snow to pile up in the mountains.

Once the white stuff gets deep enough, we will start using our ski passes at several of our favourite resorts that are near relatives so we can barter lodging for cooking and cleaning duties.

After the ski season, we will start our first long haul bike trip and bike across the United States. We are getting pretty stoked!

Illustrations of outdoor activities people with skis, bicycles, walking, running

Side hustles

My best side hustle is not having a side hustle. I have been doing some weekly tutoring here in Hong Kong, which is quite lucrative. And Sara and I will be substitute teachers from time to time when we head back to Minnesota. All of those funds will be used to take a little of the pain away from buying new gear for our adventures.

What can we celebrate?

We turned 50 years old and we will act and play like we are teenagers. I don’t foresee this to ever change.

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We have not stopped our mission of never working full time again but have opened up the possibility of recruiting to teach overseas at another destination after a two or three year hiatus.

After being stuck in Hong Kong due to Covid restrictions we need to recharge our travel and adventure batteries and see family.

It will be fun to see what not teaching will do to our psychology of living and having purpose in our lives. We’re not too worried about this, however.

Our main goal in life is to play hard and give back. We will be able to do this in a lot of different ways.

Peace. And enjoy the adventure!

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Don’t you just love these updates?

Life may throw us curve balls such as inflation and a pandemic but they are only detours along the way to achieving FIRE.

Inflation has made our Late Starters more cautious and hold more cash than they otherwise would have. The pandemic has allowed them to redirect their energy to other pursuits.

Congratulations, Deanna on writing a book – how exciting! And the possibility of working with your husband to start a ministry, all while on the path to FIRE with a part time job.

And congratulations to Scott and Caroline on reaching Coast FIRE where you can cover the basic living expenses without working. And thus use any income from consulting for your ‘wants’.

Jay and Sara have retired (as it’s after June 2 today!) from teaching full time, woohoo! Congratulations! I feel tired just reading about your future awesome adventures, 🤣

Reading these updates show me that we can be flexible and adaptable while on our path to achieving FIRE despite the setbacks that life sometimes throws at us.

Your stories inspire and motivate me to keep going on my own journey. Thank you very much for sharing your progress.

What are your takeaways from our Late Starters' progress updates?

Late Starter to FI Series #34 – Start Where You Are

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Welcome to the Late Starter to FI series!

I am a Late Starter – I discovered the FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) movement when I was 47. This was way later, I thought than others who seem to have it all together in their 20s and 30s.

Since I started to write about my own journey, I have discovered there are many more Late Starters like me, yay! It’s such a relief knowing I’m not alone. 

I want to share our stories, our unique perspectives and show that it is absolutely not too late for us.

So in this series, I particularly highlight those of us who start our FI journeys in our 40s, 50s and 60s. And explore questions such as ‘where do we start’, ‘can we still retire early(ish)’, ‘what are the specific challenges for us late starters’. We look at our past, not to castigate ourselves but so that you can learn from us.

Please join in the conversation in the comments below. I encourage you to share your story if you fit the profile of a late starter. You absolutely don’t have to be a blogger or podcaster to share your story. 

Please email me at info@latestarterfire.com or connect with me on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram

If you’ve missed any of the previous stories, you can catch up here – Late Starter to FI Series

And if you can’t wait to start on your own FIRE journey, check out my step by step ultimate starter guide, Late Starter to FIRE Action Plan.

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Today’s late starter is Maz, an Australian reader who has so generously shared her story. You can connect with Maz at Mazfires@gmail.com – here is Maz in her own words …

A little about me

My partner and I are in our early 40s and live in a large regional centre in Australia. We live on a suburban block with our beloved dog.

I enjoy exercise, reading and cooking. My partner loves making furniture and any sort of DIY.

We are both in essential services and value the security of these jobs, especially since the pandemic. We have kept our jobs and maintained our standard of living through Covid – probably saving more since we haven’t been able to go on holidays!

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I’ve had a budget since I first moved out of home. I was on a basic wage starting out and learnt quickly that if I didn’t put money aside for bills, I wouldn’t have it when they were due. And I also learnt the hard way that credit card interest quickly adds up. Luckily, I learnt this quickly before I did any damage to my finances.

In hindsight, these principles really set me up. I worked throughout my 20s and put myself through university in my late 20s to complete my Masters degree.

At 30 I was starting a new career, with almost no savings, but improtantly, no debt except my HECS (a government funded student loan that covers tuition and is indexed to inflation but interest free)

Lightbulb moment

Like many others, I first came across FIRE via Mr Money Mustache several years ago (maybe 5 or 6). At the time, it did not resonate with me at all.

I thought I had to sell my house and buy a tiny apartment. And sell my car and cycle everywhere. This did not fit the lifestyle I had wanted. I like my house. I like my car. I like my life!

A few years later, I was at a different point – we had a home we love, had great relationships with our extended family but what was next?

We’d been unable to have kids and it led us to rethink the assumptions we had had for our life together.

Sometime last year, I was bingeing on personal finance podcasts and found FIRE and CHILL. Pat and Dave broke FIRE open with their emphasis on the underlying principles.

I remember listening to one of the early episodes and thinking – we already live well below our means, wait! – we already saved a good part of our income – wait! Is this something we could do??

 

Our financial situation at the time

We’d been sensible with our money – putting extra on our mortgage, always lived within our means and, mostly, saved up for the big things we wanted.

But apart from superannuation, we had no investments, just a small emergency fund.

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First steps on the path to FI

It really changed our approach to our finances – to think about how we could make our money work harder to give us more freedom and flexibility.

I looked at our budget and realised we already had the basics covered. We were already saving a good proportion of our income into our superannuation and extra mortgage repayments. I think it was around 30% at the time.

So the jump to FI wasn’t too hard – as compared to when I first read MMM. But it took some thinking and re-thinking about how to apply the principles to our situation.

How we think about our finances now

We think in terms of inside superannuation and outside superannuation. The last few years we’ve made additional contributions to our retirement funds. And with the recent high market returns, our superannuation has done well. It’s only been recently that I’ve realised how well.

Here are the calculations (not our actual numbers).

Let’s calculate our FI number using the basic 25x yearly expenses – 25x $50,000 = $1,250,000 allowing for a 4% withdrawal rate.

Then let’s assume half comes from my superannuation and half from my partner’s. To start drawing down at 60 years of age (when we can access our retirement accounts), we need $625,000 each in our retirement funds by then (half of $1.25 million).

If our current superannuation balance is $200,000 each, let’s use the rule of 72 to project that forward (or a compound interest calculator). If my superannuation makes 7% per year, it will double every 10 years. So if I’m 40 now, when I’m 50 it will be worth $400,000 even if I don’t make any more contributions.

Then double again between 50 and 60 years old to $800,000. Each!

So, our superannuation can just sit there for the next 20 years, and we’ll have enough! This is what’s referred to as COAST FI. We don’t need to add any more to my superannuation – the compounding and time does the work.

This is amazing! We could both go to part time work, just to cover our living expenses from now to 60, and not need to invest any more.

We can dream bigger!

So now we get to dream and be even more ambitious.

We can both go part time if we like.

We can risk a job change to something new, but lower paying, or less secure than our current jobs.

I’ve already had a conversation with my boss about changing to 4 days a week (we are still negotiating).

So how can we move our ‘work optional’ date forward, and forward again?

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My beloved dog

What are our new goals?

We have 2 big goals at present: the first being to pay off the mortgage. Our lofty goal is to have it completely paid off within 5 years.

I know mathematically we’re better off paying the minimum and putting the rest into investments. But for us, it represents security, and flexibility and will significantly reduce our expenses.

It’s also taking advantage of being fit and able to work full time while we can. You never know when life can suddenly change. One of us, or a family member, could become sick or injured. If this happened, we might not be able to work full time, or might need to take on an increased caring role.

Our other goal is to invest more, to be able to fully retire at 55. The strategy is simple, just low cost index funds. We’re not keen on property, because we don’t want to borrow large amounts, and that’s just our personal preference.

 

Our current budget breakdown

Minimum mortgage payment 15%

Short term expenses 15%

Yearly expenses 15%

Additional mortgage repayments 15%

Outside retirement investments (taxed brokerage account) 10%

Other long term lifestyle goals 20% (includes holidays, home renovations)

Additional superannuation contributions (like a 401k account) 10%

Specific challenges or advantages of starting late

I think for people just discovering FI, especially if you think you’re too old – my advice is just start where you’re at.

You don’t need to side hustle, or start your own business, unless you want to.

You need to spend less than what you earn and invest the difference. Even if all you do is add extra to your retirement, you are still ahead, in my opinion.

I use YNAB, which is a detailed budget tool. But the Barefoot Investor buckets might work best for you.

I was chatting to a friend about this. Late starters may not have as long for interest to compound, but we can still save.

I think later in life you have a stronger sense of yourself and your values, which makes it easier to prioritise the needs of your future self over instant gratification.

Resources I've found useful

Books:

The Barefoot Investor by Scott Pape

An Aussie Finance Classic. If you really feel like you have no idea where to start with your finances, this gives you a step-by-step framework. It includes banking, getting out of debt, budgeting and starting out investing.

The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins

If the calculations I’ve included don’t make sense, this is your book. It’s in the title – the basics of investing and compounding for passive income. If you’re knee deep in analysis paralysis ot side hustle YouTube, it’s great for perspective.

Budgeting:

YNAB – You Need a Budget

This is an envelope style, or zero-based budget tool. It really helped me find the extra percentages to add to our savings rate. A great tool for prioritising your financial needs and wants.

Podcast

FIRE and CHILL (Edit: Sadly, no longer available)

As I said above, it really emphasises the principles of financial independence over tiny details. Both hosts have their own blogs too.

Dave from Strong Money Australia

Pat from Lifelong Shuffle

What's next?

Once our home is paid off, we’ll turbo charge our saving and investing, to move our retirement date closer and closer.

We’re planning a holiday in Australia next year, as things open post pandemic. We’re also planning an overseas holiday in the next few years.

I love talking about this stuff and bouncing ideas around. Drop me an email if you want to chat about your own ideas – Mazfires@gmail.com

 

Back to Latestarterfire

Thank you, Maz for sharing your story.

For me, your story highlights the importance of sharing our own stories with others. Even though reading Mr Money Mustache did not resonate with you at the beginning, it did many years later.

Another point that strikes me is that if you have the basics right from a young age, the stretch to FI is not big. It’s just a matter of tweaking a little here and there and you could be at Coast FI very soon.

And I love your advice to other late starters – just start where you are. It truly doesn’t matter how you start or what you do – the key is to start today.

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