You can’t enjoy your money if you are dead

Hmmm … not quite our lunch table – Photo by Louis Hansel on Unsplash

 

During one of our lunch breaks last week, my colleagues and I randomly discussed superannuation, home ownership, passive income and how soon we could retire.

Meet my lunch break colleagues

(all names have been changed to protect their privacy)

Judy, 61 tells us she is currently building two townhouses, one of which will be for her son. This is her way of helping her eldest son achieve the great Australian dream of home ownership. She has three sons and is happy to help the other two when the time comes. Her husband is in the building trade so they save on labour and materials and have the know how to pull it through. But due to this project, she is unable to retire as yet.

Martha, 50 asks me if I am contributing extra into my superannuation. She feels lucky as her husband works for the Public Service and he gets 15% contribution from his employer (while we only get 9.5%). So at least her husband has a decent nest egg upon retirement. She has two teenage children and has taken time off for maternity leave twice, returning to part time work afterwards. So naturally, like the majority of women, she is behind. But she is contributing extra now and comments that it is too little too late – this racing to the end with extra contributions to super. She doesn’t see herself retiring for a long time.

Letitia, 54 married young and had her children relatively young, compared to the others. She is not sure how her recently married daughter could afford a house only 7 minutes from her but is very thankful. She worries about her youngest son who is happy with renting at the moment – all that rent money wasted, in her opinion. Letitia doesn’t know when she can retire.

Penelope, in her late 50s is a home flipper. She buys a house to live in, renovates it then sells it for a profit. And then it’s off to a new house. She is a breast cancer survivor and a tough cookie.  Her two adult children don’t depend on her financially. Real estate has been her way of getting ahead financially. She is happy to work as long as she can, appreciating that her life could have ended a few years ago.

Then there’s me …

I (who just turned 48) announce that I want to retire within the next ten years – no one believes me. Chiefly due to my workaholic tendencies and putting work first for as long as they have known me. What would you do, Latestarterfire if you retired? You would be bored in 5 minutes. Secondly, because I don’t have the safety net of a husband. The assumption is because I am on my own, I will have to work longer to achieve the savings required for retirement.

The phone call

Penelope’s phone rings and she excuses herself to take the call.

The rest of us chat on  …. about the high cost of housing in Melbourne. All the mothers are worried that their children experience such difficulties with breaking into home ownership. Which is why Judy is postponing retirement to help her son. But the others who don’t have  husbands in the building trade cannot replicate her method.

Most comment that Baby Boomers who are financially well off are those that have investment properties and receive passive income from them. Everyone knows someone who is wealthy from pursuing this method.

But it is not possible for today’s young people as the cost of housing is stratospheric, if they want to live in the inner city and where there are trendy cafes and shops around. Let alone invest in rental properties.

None of their children want to live in the outer suburbs, where housing is more affordable but amenities such as public transport and road infrastructure are not that great. And let’s face it, just not trendy at all. Which leads to another lament that young people these days are not willing to make sacrifices and start with somewhere affordable.

Talk soon turn to our recent holidays (happier topic of conversation!). Both Letitia and I had recently returned from European holidays.

I had been feeling out of sorts, thinking about how I can go away again next year and spend 8 weeks with my niece during the Northern summer. Which is an expensive time to be in London. My overall income has dropped in my new role, with less overtime hours. If I want to continue contributing extra to my superannuation, my take home pay is significantly reduced. And saving for my travels comes out of my take home pay.

Everyone weighed in about balancing saving for retirement and living in the present. It is a dilemma all of us struggle with. The ones recently returned from holidays dream of another holiday. And the ones who hadn’t been on holiday are planning one in the near future. The others all have European ties and all concur that European holidays are expensive.

Penelope returns to the lunch table, visibly upset

Her cousin turns 64 today. She just received news that her cancer has returned.  Tests show the cancer is now in her lungs and stomach plus she has a bowel obstruction to top it off. She had been in remission for a few years from cervical cancer and then bowel cancer.

Book your next holiday, Penelope tells me. Life is short. It doesn’t matter if you have 10 investment properties – you can’t enjoy your money if you are dead.

Our lunch break is over.

 

Life is indeed short. How do you balance between saving for retirement and enjoy living in the here and now?

 

 

 

How will I cope with travel costs after retirement?

Church of Our Lady before Tyn in Prague (that is not the view from my balcony!)

I am typing this post on a balcony in Prague, in the Czech Republic. On a balmy summer evening. How cool is that?

Oh, and after returning from a scrumptious dinner at a Michelin star restaurant, La Boheme Degustation. Needless to say, the meal was not inexpensive.

Lettuce heart with raspberry powder and a slice of lard – one of my dishes from La Boheme Degustation

This got me thinking …

How I currently fund my travels

I save for my travels in two separate accounts  – one that I use for ‘spending money’ while I am overseas and one for serious costs such as airfares and accommodation.

The account for spending money does not accrue great interest.  But it has no foreign exchange fees and comes with a debit card that can be loaded with different currencies. So I only transfer money on a weekly basis here when I have imminent travel coming up and while I am travelling. I work out approximately how much I need for the holidays and start automating weekly transfers accordingly.

The second account (which is really my travel account) does accrue good interest. I transfer a weekly amount irrespective if I have anything planned. So it is replenished constantly. And ready for my next lot of travels, whenever it may be.

This account is non negotiable – that is how important travel is to me. I don’t want my finances to prevent me from travelling whenever I feel like it. Just as I always have a valid passport. Sure, my work schedule may prevent me from travelling at the drop of a hat. But I don’t want to, ever, be constrained by my lack of funds.

What happens now when I am on holidays?

Generally, by the time I leave the country, I will have already paid for the expensive items such as flights and accommodation plus any pre booked events. I only need money for food, transport and sight seeing expenses while I am travelling. This money then comes out of my spending account. Which is funded. So I don’t draw any money from my usual everyday account while I am on holidays.

While I am away, my everyday account will continue to perform as per usual ie automated weekly deductions to the emergency fund, investment account etc will continue uninterrupted. And any bills that are direct debited from this account or my credit card will also continue as per usual.

Most importantly, my weekly pay cheque will continue to be deposited into this account while I am on holidays.

That’s correct – I get four weeks paid leave per year. I have never done unpaid leave before. If I travel for more than four weeks, it means I did not use up my leave entitlements the year before. Or I have long service leave available.

After I return from my travels

Any money left over in the spending account will be transferred to my emergency fund.

And that weekly amount I was depositing into this account will now be available for the emergency fund which is very close to funding 6 months of expenses.

So … when I retire …

What happens when I retire? That is, I will not have any consistent income like a pay cheque. Yes, I may have the odd dividend arriving from my shares portfolio but that is hardly consistent at the moment. Hopefully, my shares portfolio will grow to a bigger pie by the time I retire in the next decade.

But the question remains – how will I feel if I cannot replenish what I have spent?

I know intellectually, that my nest egg should provide for me – I will not retire unless I have a certain amount saved up. And whether I use the 4% rule or be more conservative and use 3% or 3.5% – that is all conjecture at the moment.

And I have budgeted overseas travel in my plans. I only travel every second year now but I can envision myself travelling every year if I don’t have work commitments.

But psychologically, how will I cope? I can justify spending money (within reason) now, knowing very well that I am still getting paid while on holidays. And that I have a job to return to which means more incoming pay cheques.

So I find myself pondering this …

Should I travel as much as I can now, while I can spend $250 on a dinner, knowing that I can replace it? And while I am in good  health and can walk happily for miles? 

Maybe I should focus on the expensive routes and cities (that’s you, Scandinavia & western Europe & dare I dream it – Antartica?) while I’m working. And leave Asia and South America until I retire.

Maybe I should have my fill of Michelin star restaurants now. And what about cooking lessons? But I have always dreamed about cooking in Tuscany or Provence – join one of those insanely expensive tours where you stay in a magnificent historical house in the countryside and cook and eat.

Will I still want to travel or will I not enjoy travelling as much if I cannot spend money on experiences that I value? If I have to question every expense, justify every dollar …

Needs and wants change …

Perhaps I am worrying needlessly. After all, what I think I want when I retire may not be what I want when I do finally retire.

For example, on this holiday when I was in London with my niece, I was much happier spending time with her than gallivanting about town, attending shows and eating at trendy restaurants. Which is absolutely what I would have indulged in if my niece were not available. And it was what I did on previous visits before she was born. I did do those things on this trip, just not as much as I did on previous trips.

So who knows … I may tire of eating at overseas Michelin star restaurants; I may give up that dream of joining a culinary tour to Tuscany or Provence; maybe the need to visit Antartica will fade …

After all, I cut out my daily takeaway cappuccinos when the need arose. Perhaps travel experiences will be not be any different.

And there may be new dreams – like spending each summer with my niece or exploring mini retirements

Sigh …. I think my FI date just got pushed further away …

Final thoughts

Am I over thinking this? Maybe. But it’s best to think out scenarios and prepare for them. At least, anticipate that there may be a problem.

And start thinking about how I would react or respond. And perhaps explore if some other contingency plans can be forged.

 

How about you? Do you have an expensive hobby that you worry you may not be able to fund once you retire? Am I thinking this all wrong?

 

 

 

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