Late Starter to FI Series #33 – FIRE as an Accelerant

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Welcome to the Late Starter to FI series!

I am a Late Starter – I discovered the FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) movement when I was 47. This was way later, I thought than others who seem to have it all together in their 20s and 30s.

Since I started to write about my own journey, I have discovered there are many more Late Starters like me, yay! It’s such a relief knowing I’m not alone.

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I want to share our stories, our unique perspectives and show that it is absolutely not too late for us.

So in this series, I particularly highlight those of us who start our FI journeys in our 40s, 50s and 60s. And explore questions such as ‘where do we start’, ‘can we still retire early(ish)’, ‘what are the specific challenges for us late starters’. We look at our past, not to castigate ourselves but so that you can learn from us.

Please join in the conversation in the comments below. I encourage you to share your story if you fit the profile of a late starter. You absolutely don’t have to be a blogger or podcaster to share your story. 

Please email me at info@latestarterfire.com or connect with me on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram

If you’ve missed any of the previous stories, you can catch up here – Late Starter to FI series

And if you can’t wait to start on your own FIRE journey, check out my step by step ultimate starter guide, Late Starter to FIRE Action Plan.

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Autumn in Colorado mountains

While I don’t read blogs or listen to podcasts specifically to determine if the author or speaker is a late starter, I’m always excited when I find out later that they are indeed fellow late starters.

That is true of today’s late starter, FI for the People – whose humour and writing I connect with 🙂

In his own words, here is FI for the People.

A little about me

I’m a 50-year-old, married (to The Missus), father of two teenagers (Thing One (The Elder) and Thing Two (The Younger)). I live in a city in the Mountain West of the United States and work in the legal field.

Aside from having been partially responsible for creating Things One and Two, my net positive contribution to the good of society is questionable. At best.

As for hobbies, I like long walks along the beach, dinners by candle light, . . . Uh oh, wait a minute. Wrong context, I think. That presumably being the case, my hobbies include traveling, hiking, biking, cooking, and generally reading and learning new things.

In terms of how to reach me, best is email (fiforthepeople@gmail.com). I’m also barely active on Twitter (@FIForThePeople), an almost nonpresence on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/fi.forthepeople.75), allegedly on Instagram (@FIForThePeople), and apparently on Pinterest (@FIForThePeople).

Lightbulb moment

I’d long been interested in personal finance—and was a regular reader of many mainstream publications. But in 2016, I discovered FIRE as a term and as a concept after reading a New Yorker article about Mr. Money Mustache (MMM). I then binge read MMM’s blog, which turned me on to hundreds of other FIRE blogs.

My long-time interest in the topic of personal finance and in improving our own personal finances specifically was just the fertile ground needed for me to immediately connect to the concept of FIRE. I started to question everything, and changes we soon made had an immediate and substantial impact.

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Our financial situation then

We were doing OK financially when I discovered FIRE. Our rising incomes increasingly exceeded our expenses, and our debt comprised a mortgage on a relatively sensible condo, and a small loan on a relatively sensible car. But we were far from where I now know we should (or at least could) have been financially.

In terms of investments, we had retirement accounts. Though not huge, neither were they a pittance. We modestly funded them via automatic, and increasingly larger, pay check deductions. We also finally had built an amply funded emergency fund and were building equity in our condo, which was the only real estate that we owned.

 

Our kids were younger and generally more expensive then, due mainly to after-school care expenses and our ongoing contributions to college savings accounts. We also had fairly high and unavoidable medical expenses.

So, although our revenues exceeded our expenses, our cost of living was pretty high. But because we were nearing the end of the after-school-care stage, and the expenses associated with it and with younger kids generally, our expenses were trending down.

First steps on the path to FI

Wow. That’s a tough question to answer because: (1) my brain is too decrepit to hold those memories; and (2) there were so many things we fired on (ahhh, do you see what I did there?) almost simultaneously that I can’t be sure.

That small loan on the sensible car? Gone with a phone call to pay it all off.

Finding any number of expenses to eliminate or lower? Done.

Jacking up our retirement account contributions? Oh, yeah!

And so much more.

Our initial proactive measures largely focused on cost cutting. And that helped. A lot. But we also opened our first taxable brokerage account and started funnelling money into it.

I also started down the road of side gigs. Nothing major, but a little here and a little there. Also, as we were in the prime years of our careers, raises that we received on our salaries had a larger effect dollarwise.

How far along the path to FI are we now?

In terms of our place on the FIRE journey, I plan to FIRE at the end of 2021.

I feel over the moon good about it. The thought of not working for as long as I so choose, and all but total control of the terms I’ll work under (whenever I decided I’d like to do some work), has me feeling as giddy as a school boy dropped into a tub full of candy. Maybe even giddier.

The Missus will continue allowing us to take advantage of her employer-subsidized health insurance working until she comes to her senses for the foreseeable future.

Our current financial situation

We’re already at the point that I could FIRE. But I decided to ride out the year working.

I’ll certainly be FIREing far, far earlier than I’d anticipated pre-discovery of FIRE, but even far earlier than when I first discovered FIRE.

When we first started down the FIRE path, I benchmarked where we were. I figured that we’d be lucky to reach FI in our early-60s. And we might possibly have to work past 65.

As it turned out, I wasn’t factoring in all possible revenue (sources), and certainly didn’t anticipate the crazy bull market we’ve enjoyed for most of the last five years.

Regardless, under no circumstances did I anticipate being able to FIRE as early as I now plan to.

How my relationship with money has changed

Due to events in my past, I’ve long had money-insecurity issues. As our net worth has grown and I’ve gained a firm and clear grasp of our financial situation and where we’re going, those issues have receded. But they’re still there and certainly keep me on my toes.

That’s a double-edged sword. Good that our finances are something very much on my radar so that I remain on top of them; bad that I’m nowhere near as relaxed about our finances as I’d like (and probably ought) to be at this point.

As for mistakes, there are many.

Owning instead of (at least considering) renting, for example.

Not opening a taxable brokerage account and not maxing out our retirement account contributions earlier being other major ones.

Not figuring out how to lower the amount I took out in law school loans is yet another (tho, the experience of paying off those loans was some of the best education I ever received).

And taking out a car loan (even if small) because “that’s just what you do, you know” is another one that comes to mind.

I also once invested in a single company’s stock. The company promptly went bankrupt. That, however, also was a valuable learning experience.

As for what I’d do differently, it’s almost a cliché at this point, but I’d have started investing far earlier. Had I been able to have seen others’ well-funded accounts and passive income streams, I probably would have.

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Dream Lake in Rocky Mountains National Park, Colorado

Specific challenges or advantages of starting late

Challenges that immediately come to mind are:

(1) fewer years for compounding to work its magic (or, that the bigger (dollarwise) effects of compounding are realized at a later age than those who start younger);

(2) for some, more (severe) health issues;

(3) for some, more (financial) obligations, such as those related to care for others.

Advantages are:

(1) for many, the valuable experience and perspectives that often come with age;

(2) for many, higher salaries, enabling higher-dollar contributions to wealth-building (or debt elimination);

(3) for many, greater knowledge of oneself and what brings one joy and contentment.

What's next?

Once I FIRE at year’s end, I’m going to enjoy me some time not working. I hope to de-stress, learn how to sleep again, and generally enjoy just being.

We also have some travel we hope to do; some of the plans are new and others are ones that we’ve had to cancel because of the ‘rona.

After an indeterminate period of time, I’m likely to do some income-generating work. But as I choose, and in a job and industry completely different from the one I’ve been in for the last 30 years or so.

 

How has Covid 19 pandemic affected our strategy?

The ‘rona hasn’t affected our strategy.

We’re vaxxed, and when boosters become available, we’ll sprint to get them. So, we hope to remain able to physically not feel much or any impact from the virus. That said, as mentioned, the little bug has made a mockery of some of our travel plans and may yet still. So, travel we might have done after I FIRE may have to be put on ice, or revised.

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Thank you, Mister FI for the People for sharing your FIRE journey with us.

Reading your story, I’m reminded that being on the FIRE path is the accelerant needed to turbo charge our finances. Especially if the foundations are there – it just makes sense.

And even if we don’t think we are where we should be when we first discover FIRE, our numbers soon improve. They have to – when we reduce our expenses, eliminate debt, invest and delve into what our priorities are and how our money is best utilised to serve our lives.

Sometimes these are big steps and sometimes they only need tweaking, but the fact is that you took action. And a mere five years after discovering FIRE, you are set to retire early!

Congratulations! And I look forward to reading about your early retired life in the very near future 🙂

How has your FIRE journey accelerated your financial goals?

Update

Mister FI for the People retired at the end of 2021 🎉 Woohoo! Congratulations!!

Catch up on his latest news and how he’s coping with retired life in the Late Starter to FI Series Progress Update 2022 Part 3

Late Starter to FI Series #32 – Teaching Abroad to Financial Independence

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Welcome to the Late Starter to FI series!

I am a Late Starter – I discovered the FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) movement when I was 47. This was way later, I thought than others who seem to have it all together in their 20s and 30s.

Since I started to write about my own journey, I have discovered there are many more Late Starters like me, yay! It’s such a relief knowing I’m not alone. 

I want to share our stories, our unique perspectives and show that it is absolutely not too late for us.

So in this series, I particularly highlight those of us who start our FI journeys in our 40s, 50s and 60s. And explore questions such as ‘where do we start’, ‘can we still retire early(ish)’, ‘what are the specific challenges for us late starters’. We look at our past, not to castigate ourselves but so that you can learn from us.

Please join in the conversation in the comments below. I encourage you to share your story if you fit the profile of a late starter. You absolutely don’t have to be a blogger or podcaster to share your story. 

Please email me at info@latestarterfire.com or connect with me on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram.

If you’ve missed any of the previous stories, you can catch up here – Late Starter to FI series

And if you can’t wait to start on your own FIRE journey, check out my step by step ultimate starter guide, Late Starter to FIRE Action Plan.

 

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We’ve featured many teachers in this series … who have either reached FIRE or working hard to reach FIRE.

Today’s feature, Jay and Sara, who write at Playtirement are committed teachers who took their teaching abroad – read on to see how this affected their financial independence journey.

You can also connect with Jay and Sara at Twitter and Instagram

A little about us

We are Jay and Sara; we are Minnesotans by birth who lived there much of our lives. From our earliest learning experiences in kindergarten through our graduate degrees, all happened within Minnesota.

This is also where we began our careers and spent the first 18 years of our professional lives teaching within public schools, in the cities of Mankato and Duluth.

Our lives have always revolved around a school year calendar. It’s helped us have extended time to explore and play and practice mini- retirement each summer. I like to think this time has kept us young, even though we are fast approaching the end of our 40s.

We are a couple of DINKs (Double Income No Kids), and when we had our chocolate labrador, we were a couple of DINKS-WADS (Double Income No Kids With A Dog). Being an aunt and uncle to 17 nieces and nephews gave us plenty of opportunities to watch our siblings raise children. We decided by not deciding about having kids. When we turned 40, we settled on continuing to impact the lives of children one school year at a time.

That same year in 2012, we chose to take our lives on the road to start an international teaching adventure before our roots ran too deep in one place.

We spent two years teaching abroad in Johannesburg, South Africa, and thoroughly enjoyed our first gig away from the protected wing of our birthplace. The wanderlust had just begun.

We knew we were hooked on this international lifestyle but wanted to prove it wasn’t just a fluke, so we tried one more move. In 2014 we relocated to Hong Kong to live and work on the side of the world we never stepped foot on. It didn’t take us long to realise the city offered us everything we needed in life, including woods and water. We’ve been here ever since.

Our main passion is for all things outdoors that get us moving and exploring, and travelling. Biking, hiking, trail running, backpacking, downhill skiing, cross-country skiing, snowshoeing, canoeing, camping, and anything in between. Put us in the outdoors, and we are happy.

Jay and Sara at Cape Agulhas, South Africa

Our lightbulb moment

FIRE was never something we thought of until about five years ago. Before moving overseas, we consistently contributed to our pensions and lived the traditional middle-class lifestyle in the United States. We had a house, credit card debts, two cars, and an affinity to spending money whenever we got more of it. Like many others before us, it was an imperfect path to financial independence.

We dabbled in additional investments in our 30s after finally realising what that meant. We couldn’t afford much due to our lifestyle, so we decided to max out a Roth IRA each year, which was $5000. The process started with a financial planner through our teacher’s credit union. He was a nice man. He also had us invest in a managed fund that had fees of 1.5%. We are glad that neither that financial planner nor those funds are in our lives anymore.

Fast forward to moving overseas in 2012. We rented our house in the US and began to quickly pay down debts due to the additional benefits and compensation we received from our international school. Our school also covered our housing costs, and we paid no local tax on our salaries. It was shocking to see how our financial situation changed for the better. It was like we won the teaching lottery.

We were able to quickly kill our credit card and graduate degree debts along with paying down our mortgage. Once the debts were gone, we began saving a lot of money in a simple savings account.

$10 000. Boom! $20 000. Woohoo! $100 000. OMG! Wait, now what do we do?

At this time, we began having serious conversations with some friends about what to do with our savings. One friend turned us onto the book, Millionaire Teacher by Andrew Hallam. And voila, our FIRE life was born.

We got hooked on the mathematics of it all, and we gobbled up many more books after that, including The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins and the Little Book of Common Sense Investing by Jack Bogle.

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These books led us to an easy epiphany. Call it a duh – epiphany. We could retire before our full pension age of 66 years old. Holy schnikes!

After discovering this was a possibility, our savings rate skyrocketed to at least 50% of our salary each month. This new fiscal goal post was changing our mindset and made us take some crucial steps in our journey.

The first was to make our savings rate as high as we could get it. The second was to get our dollar bills working for us in mathematically advantageous ways. Index fund investing was calling.

Our first real index fund investment was born in January 2017. We opened up a brokerage account with Charles Schwab and tested an investment by buying $1000 in a simple total stock market index fund (SWTSX). We marvelled at the simplicity of it all.

After travelling back to the US that following summer, we rolled over all our additional investment accounts into two simple pots, a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA. Filled with a mixture of total stock and total bond market index funds, we now had three fertile grounds to watch our plants grow.

And boy, did they take off. We know the adage is “time in the market, not timing the market” but we have ridden the bull wave for the past four and a half years. It sure has been a good ride. (We know not to get too cocky, however)

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How far we have progressed ...

These past four years have also been stellar as far as thinking about our future with money. The time has helped us define our values about living even further and identify what we want to do once we stop full time work.

FIRE is not really about investing and making a bunch of money in order to sip margaritas on a beach. It’s a philosophy. It’s a paradigm shift. It’s a lifestyle. We feel so fortunate to have been given this gift of discovering the difference.

Specific challenges or advantages of starting late

We have no regrets about starting our FIRE journey this late.

We rather enjoy knowing we struggled for some years.

Beginning the path to financial independence later in life means we can identify with more people about their inabilities to save or their lack of knowledge about investing because we were also there. This helps us understand and empathise more with others on their journeys. And that’s always a good thing.

As far as doing anything differently over our years, we could have had less debt as 20 and 30 somethings by making better choices on our most significant expenses. We also know we could have saved more to take advantage of compounding interest. But there is no blame or shame in the process. We all have to start somewhere.

Jay & Sara on the Great Wall of China
Hiking on the Great Wall of China

Arriving at our FI destination

Leaving a job you love was not an easy decision. We love teaching and will miss building and working with our community of learners each school year.

However, as we enter our last year of teaching in a little over a month, we look forward to 16 extra years of financial freedom. Sixteen years we didn’t think we’d have in our lives to backpack in the mountains when we want, bicycle tour when we want, ski when we want, trail run when we want, slow travel when we want, volunteer when we want, or go back into teaching if we want.

Freedom to choose what to do whenever we want is our Xanadu.

What's next?

The last 18 months of the pandemic have been enlightening for us, albeit a terrible situation for many people. We hunkered down in the uber-safe city of Hong Kong, saved a bunch of money due to lack of travel opportunities, and tried to teach children through Zoom and a combination of a million different schedules and configurations.

We thank our lucky stars that education is a recession-proof profession. We know others cannot say the same thing.

The months of uncertainty in the world helped us make one colossal decision. The post FI journey was about to begin.

The next thing for us after one more year of teaching is yet to be determined. And that’s how we want the rest of our lives to go too.

We plan to repatriate back to the US and our great state of Minnesota for part of the year, where we will live like the Golden Girls with some friends in their spare mother in law rental apartment. Living like this will provide us the flexibility to lock the door, leave our car and do whatever the heck we want, whenever the heck we want.

Most likely, that’s going to be trail running, bicycle touring, all forms of skiing, canoe tripping, backpacking, and any other adventures we can find around the world that will allow us to continue to work hard, play hard and give back the best we know how.

That’s our version of playtirement.

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Three Capes Track of Tasmania, Australia

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Thank you, Jay and Sara for sharing your story with us.

I love that you’ve applied your adventuring spirit to your professional lives by venturing overseas and teaching abroad. It’s amazing how that has really catapulted your savings rate and enable you to eliminate debt and start to invest hard for your future.

It’s a good lesson that we can learn – how can we do what we do professionally to earn a better income?

We already have the skills and capabilities that we’ve built up over the years from our education and years of experience in the workforce. Instead of focusing on side hustles and having a second job, perhaps we can do better by focusing on taking our main job to the next level.

Jay and Sara, we wish you well in your future adventures … many of us dream of doing what we want when we want without regard to a work schedule … this is possible for you just around the corner. How exciting!

How can you build adventure and excitement into your main job and take it to the next level?

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