Octopus Group Survey Review

Increasing my income streams is one of my goals in 2021.

But I shudder when I read or hear about participating in survey sites to earn extra money.

When I first came across FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) three years ago, I enthusiastically looked into survey sites and signed up to a few. They were awful. I got phone calls during the day from all sorts of businesses, wanting me to answer endless questions for the chance to enter a draw to win some prize.

So when I heard about Octopus Group (affiliate link) – in a post on Aussie Firebug‘s facebook group, I was hesitant. But I was intrigued by its claim as Australia’s highest paying online survey group.

So I signed up.

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What is it about?

Companies or governments (local, state and federal) regularly survey members of the public about their products and services. They want our opinions and seek to improve their offerings based on our feedback.

These companies offer to pay people to answer their questions, understanding that it may be time consuming. Octopus Group helps these companies reach out to a membership that is happy to participate in their surveys.

Signing up

It is free (affiliate link) to sign up.

The process is easy and simple but you do have to answer a lot of questions – about you (age, gender, postcode), the products and services you use. These answers determine which surveys are sent to you.

For example, if a company is looking for feedback from 30 year old males living in Sydney – I will not get that survey because I do not fit that criteria according to my profile.

 

The rewards

Many paid survey sites reward you with points and when you reach a certain number of points, you can redeem them for gift cards.

What I love about Octopus Group is that they reward you with cold, hard cash. You can cash out once you have $20 in your balance, directly into your bank account.

Or you can get a Flexi electronic gift card instead which can then be converted to gift cards from major retailers. You can also choose to donate to charities such as Australian Cancer Research Foundation and Beyond Blue.

I prefer to be rewarded in cash because every extra cent is going into my Antarctica account – this is a fun way for me to obtain some extra funds 💰

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How does it work?

Surveys are delivered to you based on your profile. Octopus Group does not guarantee how many surveys you get. It depends too on how many people are in your demographic or have similar profiles to you. And how many people of your target group that the companies want to survey.

Once you receive notification via your phone app (simplest way to be notified unless you like email notification), log into the app. You will see the name of the survey, estimated time needed to complete survey and how much you’ll be paid.

Select the survey you want to participate in and away you go.

You’ll be asked ‘screening’ questions about your gender, age and postcode or state you live in. If you fit what they are looking for, you’ll enter into the survey proper and get more questions.

If after a few questions, you are deemed not suitable for whatever reason, you will still be paid a very small fee – 5 cents 🙂 Even though it’s only 5 cents, you haven’t wasted much time at this stage.

I mostly complete surveys on my phone but there are times when the surveys are best completed on a tablet or desktop – they will inform you of this at the beginning.

 

What sort of surveys have I completed?

All sorts – from my views on Covid 19 vaccination to buying a car to whether I’ve seen advertising campaigns on superannuation products. Unfortunately I don’t drink alcohol so always get ‘Screened Out’ for those surveys 🙁

My top tips on maximising your chances of getting surveys and being paid

1. Establish your profile

Answer as many of the questions as you can to establish your profile – you can go back and update your answers later.

This gives Octopus Group the best chance of sending surveys that are relevant to you and that you will actually be qualified for.

If your profile data is not complete, they will send you random surveys that you may or may not qualify for in the end.

2. Start the survey as soon as you are notified

Surveys are sent out randomly to people of the same demographic as you. Therefore when the maximum number of people like you have completed the survey, they don’t need your participation any more. You will informed that the status is ‘Quota Full’

Surveys are mostly sent on Mondays to Fridays during normal working hours. Because I work full time during these hours, I may not be able to respond immediately when the surveys are available. I mostly do the surveys after work or during my lunch break. And therefore often miss out.

Despite this ‘fail’, I’ve still redeemed around $200 since I started in late November 2020.

3. Don't be too quick when submitting answers

In the beginning, I kept being ‘Screened Out’

This can be due to a number of reasons such as not qualifying for the survey or sometimes ‘Quality flagged’ is recorded as ‘Screened Out’.

Apparently, they’ve pre determined the length of time it takes to fill out the survey and offer a fee accordingly.

I am a fast reader. At the beginning, I was speed reading everything and sped through the survey – and was penalised as a result. ‘Screened Out’ still pays 5 cents but I would prefer the full amount 🙂 Plus if you are consistently being quality flagged, you won’t get many surveys.

So now I slow down and my chances of being paid have improved.

4. Refer your friends and family

You earn $1 upon your friend registering and then $1 per completed survey up to a maximum of $20 per referral.

Your friends and family may be in different target groups, based on their age and gender. They probably use different products and services. Therefore they may qualify for surveys that you are not qualified for. This then improves your chances of being paid.

So a big thank you to those who have registered using my link.

 

Final Thoughts

This income stream will not make me a millionaire. Nor would I describe it as a side hustle. I simply don’t hustle enough for it 🙂

But it is a simple and fun way to earn some extra cash without a lot of effort or having to learn new skills. All you are doing is answering some questions online and sharing your opinions. And getting paid for your effort!

Yes, I would recommend Octopus Group as a way of earning some extra cash. And if you can maximise your chances of getting more surveys by using my tips, you’ll earn much more than what I can at the moment.

Have you tried paid survey sites to earn extra cash?

Late Starter to FI Series #29 – Hi Fi-ing Auntie

Welcome to the Late Starter to FI series!

I am a Late Starter – I discovered the FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) movement when I was 47. This was way later, I thought than others who seem to have it all together in their 20s and 30s.

Since I started to write about my own journey, I have discovered there are many more Late Starters like me, yay! It’s such a relief knowing I’m not alone. 

I want to share our stories, our unique perspectives and show that it is absolutely not too late for us.

So in this series, I particularly highlight those of us who start our FI journeys in our 40s, 50s and 60s. And explore questions such as ‘where do we start’, ‘can we still retire early(ish)’, ‘what are the specific challenges for us late starters’. We look at our past, not to castigate ourselves but so that you can learn from us.

Please join in the conversation in the comments below. I encourage you to share your story if you fit the profile of a late starter. You absolutely don’t have to be a blogger or podcaster to share your story. 

Please email me at info@latestarterfire.com or connect with me on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram.

If you’ve missed any of the previous stories, you can catch up here – Late Starter to FI series

And if you can’t wait to start on your own FIRE journey, check out my step by step ultimate starter guide, Late Starter to FIRE Action Plan.

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Gardens by the bay, Singapore

Today’s late starter is Hi Fi-ing Auntie from Singapore, whom I first connected with on Facebook and later on Twitter.

Auntie is our first late starter from Singapore and second from South East Asia – this goes to show that FIRE is not limited to residents in the US (where it seems the majority of FIRE folks live!)

She shares her journey at Hi Fi-ing Auntie  and calls herself “Auntie” because in her own words …. “For those who are not familiar with “Singlish” (the brand of English spoken in Singapore), an “auntie” is a middle-aged unfashionable woman concerned with cheap bargains value-for-money purchases, gossips, and all sorts of useless facts that may be useful to… someone. In that sense, I’m not really an auntie, but I own the stereotype and proudly call myself one.”

You can connect with Auntie on Twitter too.

Take it away, Auntie!

A little about me

I live in Singapore and am in my late 40s. I am a Communications manager in the transport industry. I live in a government (HDB or Housing Development Board) flat that is fully paid-up with my partner who is an engineer.

You need to understand that I’m by nature a very risk-averse and lazy person. This explains to a large extent how my FIRE journey evolved.

Light bulb moment

My light bulb moment was reading “Millionaire Teacher” by Andrew Hallam and checking out his blog articles. This is the first time someone presented a plan for someone based in Singapore.

I was in my early 40s and recently made redundant when I came across these resources. After more than 15 years, leaving the company prompted a reassessment of my financial situation and retirement goals.

I realised that you can never depend on remaining employed until the official retirement age. Ageism and age discrimination is a huge problem in Singapore, particularly for women who tend to assume the bulk of parent-care. At the back of my mind, I knew I had to deal with this but the redundancy forced me to be more serious about my retirement plans.

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My financial situation at light bulb moment

I have been very thrifty ever since I started working after graduation (more than 20 years ago). After graduation, I paid down my study loan very quickly and proceeded to accumulate cash. I saved $100k before I was 30.

However, options for investing were thin at that time and it was between the local stock market (stock picking), unit trusts (high fees) and investment-linked insurance policies. Online brokers were just coming on but the process of getting an account, transferring funds and trading was so complicated that I did not bother, not to mention my concerns about the security of my funds.

So I continued to accumulate savings but in the meantime, started stock picking some blue chips on the Singapore stock market. However, being a lazy person by nature, I did not bother to monitor the shares much. So my portfolio continued to languish at the $100k mark for a very long time through stock splits, share distributions and other corporate actions that diluted the value of my shares.

When I was made redundant, I received a huge payout which I diverted to my mortgage, paying it off in full. Now I realise it’s a financial mistake but it is a decision that I do not regret.

First steps on the path to FI

My very first step on the path to FI was to cancel my investment-linked policies and put the redemption sum into a global stock index fund.

I sold a large portion of my Singaporean shares and put them into a local stock index fund.

And diverted almost 70% of my emergency funds into investments. That still leaves me with one year of savings.

How my relationship with money has changed

It is changing very slowly.

I tend to equate a money value with everything. For instance, if I wanted to start a hobby, I would think about whether or not I could eventually monetise it. It skews my values and I have missed out on so much because there is always a money element in my considerations.

Thanks to Ramit Sethi (author of I Will Teach You to be Rich), I realised it’s costing me enjoyment in life. This tendency is hard baked into my psyche and today I am constantly reminding myself to let go of this money mindset.

Other factors affecting my finances

My mother had been working up until around 3 years ago so she had savings of her own. However her mental health has been declining and I foresee that I will need to chip in in some way in the future. If there is a reason why I feel the pressure to continue earning an income, it is her.

I am divorced and do not have children. Not having children really frees up my financial resources and mental space to take care of my own retirement.

View of Singapore residential buildings also known as HDB

My current financial situation

Andrew Hallam introduced 2 portfolios – the Couch Potato Portfolio and the Permanent Portfolio. Both are suitable for lazy folks like me. I decided on the Couch Potato Portfolio as I did not relish the idea of holding gold.

In short, the Couch Potato Portfolio’s fund distribution is:

50% stocks, 50% bonds

So the way I customise my Couch Potato Portfolio to fit the Singapore context is as follows:

Stocks

Local: I invest about 10% of my annual fund allocation via a retirement vehicle into a Singapore stock index fund. There is a tax benefit in doing so – you can lower your tax bracket. The flipside is that you cannot withdraw from this account penalty-free until after the statutory retirement age (62 currently).

Currently, the Singapore stock index fund returns around 7% annually

Global: I invest 40% of my annual fund allocation into global/US index funds. The historic returns of the funds are around 11%

Bonds 

In Singapore, we have a compulsory retirement savings scheme called the CPF (Central Provident Fund). Every working person must contribute 20% of their salary into this fund, with the employer matching up to 17%. So I have a healthy balance in the CPF at the moment. However, I cannot withdraw from the fund until I am 55 years old. It pays 2.4% to 6% interest at the moment.

Many Singaporeans use their CPF to buy homes, which to me jeopardises their retirement. This strategy may work in a booming market where one can hope to sell their properties at a profit but who can guarantee that? In fact, I feel that using CPF for housing makes one tend to overextend. I used the CPF when I first bought my flat but quickly paid off the sum within 6 months.

Currently my portfolio stands at 40% stocks, 60% bonds / CPF.

I hold one year of emergency funds that can be stretched if I am really, really thrifty.

Currently I have zero debt other than a monthly balance on my credit card which I pay off in full.

 

Specific challenges or advantages of starting late

One of the challenges is the fear of losing it all by changing our financial pathways. For example, it was difficult for me to decide to drastically reduce my emergency funds and divert the money into stocks.

How far along the path to FI am I now?

I am at what some people call LEAN FIRE now. But it’s not my ideal state of retirement. So I hope to be able to continue adding to my retirement funds until I am 55.

 

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How Covid 19 has affected my strategy

Lower job security and possible loss of income are two concerns. The industry my company is in is directly affected by travel restrictions. It has been going through major retrenchments. I am mentally prepared that I may be affected by it.

I would consider adding more to my emergency fund to stretch it to 1.5 years perhaps. But the investment strategy would not change.

What's next?

Because I am an employee, my financial plan is dependent on me remaining employed. So this is one weakness in my plan. And because of the prevalence of ageism in our society, sometimes, retirement is not up to me!

If I somehow lose employment, I would still want to continue earning an income. So instead of a stable full time job, I might switch to contract work which usually comes with lower pay.

I am aiming for a very comfortable retirement at 55 – I feel impatient!

Back to Latestarterfire

Thank you, Auntie for sharing your story and strategy to achieve FIRE at 55. Congratulations on making the necessary changes to ensure you’ll arrive at your destination.

I think the fear of losing one’s hard earned savings if we were to change our financial paths later in life is very prevalent among late starters. And yet, if we carried on as usual, our hope for financial independence at retirement is also diminished.

Singaporeans have long been envied for their CPF – I didn’t realise that employers provide a match of up to 17% – what a fantastic start to retirement savings!

I am hoping that as more of the world is vaccinated, your industry will recover soon and redundancies will not continue. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

I love that name – Couch Potato Portfolio – I too am risk averse and lazy so this would have appealed to me immensely had I come across it earlier 🙂 I’m off to read Millionaire Teacher now!

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